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    Posted by Woefdram posts: 8

    As elaborated in my other post, I'm looking for a way to give users the ability to add new pages.

    Several different departments here are going to share one knowledgebase and I chose Tiki for that purpose. Basic idea is that every department has its own information that's mostly accessible by other departments.

    I created groups and categories for each department and checked nearly all permissions in each category for its matching group. However, users cannot create new pages... I assume it's got something to do with the new page not yet belonging to the right category, so I figured I had to grant "create new pages" permission to the group globally. But how..?

    Kind regards,

    Hans

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    Posted by Woefdram posts: 8
    Too bad both documentation and forum are lacking bigtime... I should have gone for WebGUI, I guess.
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    Posted by Xavier de Pedro posts: 1817 Catalan Countries

    Dear Hans:

    First, welcome to Tikiwiki Community! :-)
    After that, you are right, documentation for the new behavior for categories in Tiki4 is not up to date, and migght be confusing for new admins.

    In short, you need to grant global permissions first for your group to create new pages. (through "Admin > groups > click on the key icons to grant global permissions for that group).
    However, remember that:

    • first rule object permissios, if they exist
    • then category permissions are applied (if no single object permission is defined for that object), in case they exist for that object
    • then global permissions rule, in case no object nor category permissions are defined.


    It's pretty easy to start granting permissions at a global level, and then, restricting access to specific objects in a object by object basis. That should work for you to learn how to handle tiki permission system.

    Once you master that, you can play with category permission in the middle (instead of object permissions, for instance; remember that object permissions make category and global permissions ignored for such feature)

    Cheers, and welcome to join the effort to improve the documentation as you learn how to master permissions (or any underdocumented feature that you master).

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    Posted by Woefdram posts: 8

    Thanks Xavi,

    Forgive me my frustration in yesterday's post, I had spent a lot of time already, but to no avail.

    I followed your advice and granted a set of global permissions to Registered users that allowed them to create new pages and view almost everything.

    After that, I created the category Public and used "reset to global" to copy all Registered permissions to it. I thought that would mean that all registered users would have these rights on objects in the Public category.

    Finally I granted nearly full permissions to groups in their particular category.

    And this time I saw progress :-) Surprise however that users didn't inherit the permissions I assigned to Registered on category Public, I had to copy those rights to all groups. But I hope to find something for that too.

    Thanks for the help. I'll post some documentation as soon as I feel like I "get it" :-) Have to write quite some documentation for my users anyway.

    Kind regards,

    Hans

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    Posted by Xavier de Pedro posts: 1817 Catalan Countries

    Great that you succeeded, Hans!

    Btw, you can make your groups inherit permissions from registered (or others) through including a group into another (at group edition: "Admin > groups > edit a group > add REgistered as included group to yours").

    HTH, and thanks for considering to improve the current documentation! :-)

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