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TikiWiki developers on vacation?

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Back in August 2011 I have upgraded from the no-longer supported Tiki 3.x to Tiki 7.x in the hopes of having and using the Facebook integration feature. Instead not only the Facebook integration not working, since the upgrade now a couple of my RSS feeds are now broken (I am thinking Zend is not getting all the data needed to assemble a RSS feed).

I am not a programmer or developer and I have tried to get help in the documentation, forums, and whatever looks like an answer via google. The forums has me going around in circles and I just can't figure out how to properly navigate or use the Tiki.org site. It is now the middle of September and I am no further to any solution to any of the problems I have encountered - not a single response in the forums.

If someone is here actually even reading the posts and/or looking into the issues, it sure would be nice to get a response, any response even if it just says "all out for the summer".

OK, maybe everyone is out for the summer? However when I return to the Tiki.org site, now they are asking for nominations of Tiki for the 2011 Open Source Awards? Maybe I would if all of it was working for me.

Sure maybe these Tiki 7 issues I mentioned are an isolated issue or everyone has the issues and either they (are programmers) fix it themselves or just go on without?
I am running a live site on a production server and the project I am doing requires the features that are broken in Tiki 7 to be working. The project has been stalled and going nowhere all summer, please if anyone has fixes or willing to work on this for the Facebook connect issues or the Zend feed exception issues, it would be much appreciated.

posts: 4644 Japan

"Back in August 2011" was just last month, right? Just checking. Anyway, sorry for the bad experience. As a guy who is active with Tiki but not a hardcore PHP coder, I feel your pain. First of all, while Tiki has many developers, not all are active and relatively few are skilled enough and up to date enough with the current code to fix the bugs you're talking about. Then the ones who are, being volunteers as all Tiki devs are, have their own agendas and schedules.

If you have a look at http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=tikiwiki-cvs, you can see there's a lot of coding going on, even in the dog days of summer.

Fixing bugs that standard Tiki installations will inevitably encounter should be a top priority, and these are addressed especially just prior to a release, but the code is sprawling and hours are few. I suggest that you join the https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tikiwiki-devel mailing list and make your point directly to the developers (many of whom don't see these forums very often because, actually, they're busy coding).

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posts: 18
Gary Cunningham-Lee wrote:
"Back in August 2011" was just last month, right? Just checking.


Yep, August was last month, I meant to say the end of June/beginning of July, however my last post was in August and had that stuck in my head when I wrote this.

Thank you for replying and giving some direction to go, that is really what my post was about and thanks also for the links.

posts: 1584 Canada

Also, please see:
http://tiki.org/Model#Why_don_t_you_fix_improve_the_existing_features_instead_of_adding_new_ones_

a .0 or .1 release will usually have more bugs than a .2 or a .3 release. If someone upgrades from 3.x today, the choice is upgrading to 6.4 or 7.1
http://dev.tiki.org/Version+lifecycle

7.1 has more features and a nicer user interface, but is less stable than 6.4. It's up to the user to make that trade-off.

There have been thousands of commits this summer:
http://www.ohloh.net/p/tikiwiki/commits

Best regards,

M ;-)

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Marc Laporte wrote:

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a .0 or .1 release will usually have more bugs than a .2 or a .3 release. If someone upgrades from 3.x today, the choice is upgrading to 6.4 or 7.1
http://dev.tiki.org/Version+lifecycle

7.1 has more features and a nicer user interface, but is less stable than 6.4. It's up to the user to make that trade-off.

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From what I read and understand is that I should of upgraded to 6.x instead of 7.x. However I did not know that 6.x had the Facebook integration I was seeking as I was told that 7.x was the one that had it. (can't go back now) Also the RSS feeds in TikiWiki was working fine in the earlier versions why did they mess with that? (if it is not broken, don't fix it)

Is there a way to be able to update individual parts as bug fixes come out (be able to download fixes/patches before the next .# release)?

As I understand it, the next .# release could be the next day or next month or more.